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Re: WTF, NSSF?

Irungu — Thu, 05 Dec 2013 01:35:38 -0000

This piece has suddenly been brought to my consciousness by the NSSF bill. Thanks for pointing this out early.

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

Moses the red — Wed, 23 Oct 2013 04:08:58 -0000

The Jicho Pevu series has proved you right.

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

Moses the red — Wed, 23 Oct 2013 04:07:57 -0000

You have hit the nail on the head!

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

Moses the red — Wed, 23 Oct 2013 04:07:07 -0000

From my understanding of the parts of the constitution highlighted, only the President or CS can issue an order to deploy the military.

Even then, the National Assembly has to be informed and approve of this deployment within a given period of time.

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

Moses the red — Wed, 23 Oct 2013 04:04:43 -0000

Wow, excellent article. It's quite clear that the laws regarding deployment of the military have been flouted repeatedly; Baragoi, Garissa, Westgate among others.

Most shocking thing to learn is that the IG of Police is supposed to take command of any joint operation within Kenyan borders. None of this nonsense we are being fed about a superior force automatically taking charge from the police.

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

Land of Snakes — Fri, 18 Oct 2013 08:14:18 -0000

Procedure at times can seem trivial when people are being shot left right and fucking center. Are there any exceptions to the law?

Re: Whither Amina?

Josiah — Thu, 10 Oct 2013 05:44:23 -0000

Sadly true: We are Borg. Resistance is futile. Accept and Move On.

Re: 50 Shades of William’s Grey

anitadump — Wed, 09 Oct 2013 18:30:37 -0000

How about the loot they have taken via corruption and mismanagement? Don't be so naive or do you think they are any different from the last ones who have looted over shs 300 billion in just one year?!!!

Re: In God’s Name

Matt Rose — Mon, 07 Oct 2013 21:28:11 -0000

The onion, 2 weeks after 9/11.

http://www.theonion.com/art...

"I'm talking to all of you, here!" continued God, His voice rising to a shout. "Do you hear Me? I don't want you to kill anybody. I'm against it, across the board. How many times do I have to say it? Don't kill each other anymore—ever! I'm fucking serious!"

Upon completing His outburst, God fell silent, standing quietly at the podium for several moments. Then, witnesses reported, God's shoulders began to shake, and He wept.

Read the whole thing, it's really good

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

MuchNo — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 11:42:53 -0000

Great post that informatively paints the picture for us. Many thanks for breaking it down for us.

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

MuchNo — Thu, 03 Oct 2013 11:41:34 -0000

@Kane: word is that Kenya Police Recce Unit - who are trained for exactly this type of scenario - allegedly had the situation contained and KDF allegedly bullied their way in. They allegedly refused to take on a support role and forcefully insisted on taking control. If this is all true, then Kenya Police were not treating these terrorists as mere civilians, but as the heavily armed terrorists that they were. This makes the blog entry 100% valid.

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

Inbox Lenku — Wed, 02 Oct 2013 03:57:55 -0000

Why do I suspect that Ole-Lenku doesn't know half of this? Inbox him?

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

Odundo Sean — Wed, 02 Oct 2013 03:21:20 -0000

very true.

Re: Paying Unemployed, Healthy Graduates

billmo17 — Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:09:53 -0000

*reaches

Re: Paying Unemployed, Healthy Graduates

billmo17 — Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:09:00 -0000

There are many glaring errors in your calculation that I could easily detect by mental calculation. And talking of which, did that World Bank report say that 800,000 people are necessarily graduates? I'm not sure our university capacity reach that. And what does the bureau of statistics say?

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

mmnjug ™ — Tue, 01 Oct 2013 15:44:08 -0000

The the question begs, does parliament, and in this case, the commission dealing with defence matters understand their mandate in this issue?

Interesting info.

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

Martin — Tue, 01 Oct 2013 15:06:13 -0000

Excellent analysis & presentation of the facts. Perhaps you could present this to UK and save the country the millions of shillings that will be wasted on yet another commission of inquiry, whose report will probably never be made public and recommendations (if at all useful) never implemented.

The one question that I'd like answered and that isn't covered in your presentation, is who gave the order for the military to get involved? Can anyone, other than the President, give that order? If not, then UK's role in this whole fiasco should come under scrutiny.

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

mkaeri — Tue, 01 Oct 2013 15:04:30 -0000

what the constitution doesn't foresee in my humble opinion is circumstances such as westgate, the constitution is very broad on use of KDF units and it appears there is need for specific acts of parliament to (if not already, we may look at the police act and the KDF act) compensate for specific unique situations like westgate ; heavily armed terrorist with massive firepower that immediately requires escalation...note that it was specific units within KDF that were called in, and i doubt Karangi or Ole Lenku had capacity to do this, it would appear the IG may have specifically requested for the support, i know for sure it is unusual to see the army heilos deployed unless authority has come form the top...also i doubt Kimaiyo would know how to command the special forces once deployed and would have to give the lead to the guy commanding the special forces...all the same this article shames our media...I'm sure they'll now run teh same angle in their information starved bulletins...

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

Mark Mwangi — Tue, 01 Oct 2013 12:25:45 -0000

Excellent post with hard facts. Well researched using publicly available documents that most of us don't bother to read. So why there was a debate as to who is in charge lends thought to the notion that the highest office is either not well informed by its officers or there was a power struggle that is practically juvenile.

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

Agnessi — Tue, 01 Oct 2013 08:32:06 -0000

the National assembly is to be notified within seven (7) days of deploying the Defense forces, not before - so this takes care of emergency situations.

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

Robertooz — Tue, 01 Oct 2013 05:22:44 -0000

It almost feels like the constitution was ignored or overlooked or complacency was the rider..Omamo appeared unperturbed with the on-goings!Thanks for the breakdown though...

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

David Wanjiru — Tue, 01 Oct 2013 04:57:48 -0000

With regard to deployment during a disaster vis a vis the requirement of approval by the National Assembly, I'm curious about how the NA is supposed to carry out this particular approval mandate bearing in mind the urgency that accompanies most disasters, like Westgate. Responding to a flood situation, for example, is not as time-sensitive as responding to a stand-off situation with terrorists involving hostages.
Other points well taken...

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

Houdini — Tue, 01 Oct 2013 04:29:27 -0000

It usually begins with what seems as a justifiable need for its usage, but precedence for misuse is blurred and where there are no checks the result will be detrimental not to foreign lands/people but within....

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

Erik Hersman — Tue, 01 Oct 2013 04:16:43 -0000

Throughout history, it has always been risky to use military troops for
domestic issues. They are trained to destroy, not maintain peace. They
are a hammer or a knife, nothing else.

Excellent, detailed breakdown, thank you for doing the homework for the rest of us.

Re: The Kenyan Armed Forces & You

yusuf — Tue, 01 Oct 2013 04:06:11 -0000

we must make sure the constitutions is upheld at any time,thats is our duty as kenyans,like the westgate saga recce squad could have done better, it was not about the hardwares(weapons) but tactical